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PostSubject: OG list building   Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:33 am

OK - some I'm looking at my Orc and Gobbos for making the tournament and need some recommendations on units. Whether increase size, add a unit or something else entirely. Can this force be effective or is their a big hole I am missing?


Core:
20 Orc boyz w/ 2 choppas full command
20 Orc boys w/ spear and Shield Full command
40 night goblins w/ spear and shield, command, netters, 3 fanatics.
10 Spiders command
10 wolf riders bows command
16 Arrer boys

Special: (0 to 4)
12 Black Orcs Command
2 Squig Herds
1 Rock Lobba
2 Spear Chukkas

Rare:
Giant
3 Trolls

about (1850 in pts).


Characters - I have the following generics

Orc on Boar choppa/shield
Black Orc Champion (2 choppas)
Night Goblin Shamman
Goblin Champion (2 Choppas)
Warboss on Wyvern
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PostSubject: Re: OG list building   Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:59 pm


Good Start See below for my suggestions
Who will be your General?
Grimgor is by far one of the best Characters in the game, however how can you pass up on Azhag with his necromancy spells on a wyvern!
If you don't want to go with a special Character then go Savage Orc Shaman Level 4 (6+ ward save)
add another shaman to go to the Trolls.

Core:
20 Orc boyz w/ 2 choppas full command
20 Orc boys w/ spear and Shield Full command
40 night goblins w/ spear and shield, command, netters, 3 fanatics.
**** You'll want about 3 of these units at 20 a pc. with three fanatics, netters are good but not needed unless your doing an all goblin army.)
10 Spiders command
10 wolf riders bows command
**** Good choices here but maybe increase to 15 if you have the points***
16 Arrer boys
**** Orcs can't hit the broadside of a barn from the inside let the artillery do the talking****
Special: (0 to 4)
12 Black Orcs Command
2 Squig Herds
*** Very fun but should be left to an all Goblin army, very effective, but I would suggest another rock Lobber to take down big things like dragons or generals on Pegasusssesss***
1 Rock Lobba
*** add a second****
2 Spear Chukkas
Rare:
Giant
***Damn I love this guy...***
3 Trolls
***Stick a Shaman in this unit to bolster the LD for stupidity, also if you go with the stone trolls you get Magic Resistence!***

1850 the tourney is 2250... don't know if you caught that or not.
We can play on friday if you come to Illuminadi!

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PostSubject: Re: OG list building   Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:07 pm

Here's what I think. you have a low leadership army so you'll need to win with static combat res.
keep the spiders at 10.
Ditch the Arrers
2 units of 5 wolf riders with only a muso. they're not supposed to get into prolonged combat anyway.
da Boys units should be at least 23 on the unit. If no heroes than 25
I like gobos in 6x6 blocks. Ditch the netters.
Everything else is good
Giant is gold!!!
Trolls can be crap only take 1
I'd try to find room for a unit of 25 savage orcs.
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PostSubject: Re: OG list building   Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:25 am

Use the Cavalry for Flank attacks...

You don't need more than 20 night goblins to deliver fanatics... If you are counting on the goblins to do anything BUT deliver the fanatics your playing the wrong army.

Trolls are very good you just have to do something to increase their LD...

Savage Orcs are really good though.

I actually prefer to get the enemy to run or demoralize them... and of course have some fun. If it works they are unbeatable, if not it may work...
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PostSubject: Re: OG list building   Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:33 pm

More questions -

So what's so good about the savage orcs?

Is it the 3 attacks w/ Frenzy and additional Choppa. Ward save 6+ can't be all that?

Is it a must to max out on characters? I am going to run Azhag, an orc or NG shaman, and Black Orc boss. Do I need another Boss for a unit?

Thanks for answering the Noob questions.
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PostSubject: Re: OG list building   Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:13 am

yea another question is magic stuff. I see options for magic stuff w/ my shamans/ Is there a must take items?
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PostSubject: Re: OG list building   Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:05 am

Did you nublets not read your codex lol j/k. Read all your magic items I know there are like one or two you might need to take can't remember them though.
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PostSubject: Re: OG list building   Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:11 am

John Gemrich wrote:
More questions -

So what's so good about the savage orcs?

Is it the 3 attacks w/ Frenzy and additional Choppa. Ward save 6+ can't be all that?

Is it a must to max out on characters? I am going to run Azhag, an orc or NG shaman, and Black Orc boss. Do I need another Boss for a unit?

Thanks for answering the Noob questions.


Savage Orcs Shamans get a save any otehr s don't unless you pay more for them.

But yea that extra attack and a save againsta Cannon ball is so worth it...

As far as magic items there aren't any "must" haves but there are a lot of good ones. The magic item that is only 15points and increases like 3 stats is a very good one to take!
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PostSubject: Re: OG list building   Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:20 am

JTPitt wrote:
Did you nublets not read your codex lol j/k. Read all your magic items I know there are like one or two you might need to take can't remember them though.


Shheeeet. I may be new but at least I know in WHFB it's an army book and not a codex. Very Happy


With exactly zero games under my belt it's tough to get a bead on what's good.

For instance I saw the item Sean was talking about. There is another item thats 10 pts more but only raises 1 stat. Without a good understanding of the impact the increase have it's tough to tell which item is more effective for the cost.
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PostSubject: Re: OG list building   Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:30 am

Codex, Army book same damn thing. I think they have just been havin me play 40k to much lol. Yea I understand....when you get some games in it will make more sense to you.
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PostSubject: Re: OG list building   Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:14 pm

thanks guys. this whole magic thing is new to me.
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PostSubject: Re: OG list building   Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:19 pm

Its a lot like psychic powers.
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PostSubject: Re: OG list building   Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:31 pm

yea thats kinda what I'm realizing. Hopefully soon I can get a game in with you guys for fantasy
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PostSubject: Re: OG list building   Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:24 pm

I'll play you on Friday then!!!
JGem you comin on friday? I'll play ya too!
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PostSubject: Re: OG list building   Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:46 pm

makari wrote:
I'll play you on Friday then!!!
JGem you comin on friday? I'll play ya too!


Yep....I'm in.
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